TakeProfitTrader PRO Account Commissions Explained
TakeProfitTrader PRO simulation accounts charge $5.00 per round trip for standard contracts (ES, NQ, etc.) and $0.50 per round trip for micro contracts (MES, MNQ, etc.), with these rates remaining fixed regardless of account size, trading volume, or performance.
These commissions are deducted automatically from your PRO account balance each time you complete a round trip (entry plus exit), and they're factored into your net profit before the 80/20 profit split is applied when you withdraw. Unlike some prop firms that charge exchange fees, data fees, and platform fees separately, TakeProfitTrader's commission rates are all-inclusive with no hidden per-trade costs beyond the stated $5/$0.50 rates.
Understanding how commissions impact your profitability is critical for calculating break-even points and determining whether your trading strategy can overcome the cost of execution in a simulation environment with higher commissions than live trading.
PRO Commission Rates
Round trip definition: One complete trade cycle (buy then sell, or sell then buy)
Example:
Buy 1 MES at 5,000 → Sell 1 MES at 5,010 = 1 round trip = $0.50 commission
How Commissions Are Deducted
Automatic deduction: Every time you complete a trade, commission is subtracted from your PRO balance
Example trade:
Starting balance: $50,000
Buy 1 ES at 5,000.00
Sell 1 ES at 5,010.00
Gross profit: $125 (10 points × $12.50 per point)
Commission: -$5.00
Net profit: $120
New balance: $50,120
You see: Balance increased by $120 (the commission was already deducted)
Commissions by Trading Style
Scalper (10-30 Round Trips Per Day)
Profile: Holds positions 30 seconds to 5 minutes, targets 2-5 ticks
Monthly volume: 300 round trips
Standard contracts (ES):
- 300 × $5.00 = $1,500/month in commissions
Micro contracts (MES):
- 300 × $0.50 = $150/month in commissions
Break-even calculation:
To net $2,000/month profit after commissions on MES:
- Required gross: $2,000 + $150 = $2,150
Impact: Commissions eat 7% of profits for scalpers
Day Trader (3-8 Round Trips Per Day)
Profile: Holds positions 15 minutes to 2 hours, targets 10-20 ticks
Monthly volume: 100 round trips
Standard contracts (ES):
- 100 × $5.00 = $500/month in commissions
Micro contracts (MES):
- 100 × $0.50 = $50/month in commissions
Break-even calculation:
To net $3,000/month profit after commissions on ES:
- Required gross: $3,000 + $500 = $3,500
Impact: Commissions eat 14% of profits for day traders
Swing Trader (1-3 Round Trips Per Week)
Profile: Holds positions overnight to several days, targets 50+ ticks
Monthly volume: 12 round trips
Standard contracts (ES):
- 12 × $5.00 = $60/month in commissions
Micro contracts (MES):
- 12 × $0.50 = $6/month in commissions
Break-even calculation:
To net $4,000/month profit after commissions on ES:
- Required gross: $4,000 + $60 = $4,060
Impact: Commissions eat 1.5% of profits for swing traders
Key insight: Lower frequency = lower commission impact
Why PRO Commissions Are Higher Than PRO+
PRO simulation: $5.00 per RT (standard), $0.50 (micro)
PRO+ live: $1.29-1.50 per RT (standard), $0.25-0.35 (micro)
Difference: PRO charges 3-4× higher commissions
Why?
- Simulation environment costs: TPT pays for sim infrastructure, data feeds, platform licensing
- No exchange rebates: In live trading, brokers get rebates from exchanges for providing liquidity. Sim trading doesn't generate rebates.
- Incentive to upgrade: Higher commissions in PRO encourage profitable traders to move to PRO+ where commissions are lower
Is this fair?
Debatable. Some traders argue PRO should have lower commissions since there's no real execution cost. Others accept it as the price of trading without psychological pressure.
What's Included in PRO Commissions
Included:
- Platform access (NinjaTrader, Tradovate, etc.)
- Simulated market data
- Order execution (sim fills)
- Trade reporting and tracking
NOT included (separate costs):
- Monthly Test/PRO subscription ($102-170/month)
- Reset fees if you violate ($449-1,499)
- Withdrawal fees (which are $0, but clarifying for completeness)
Bottom line: The $5/$0.50 commissions are your only per-trade cost.
Calculating Your Profitable Edge After Commissions
Formula:
Win rate × Average win - Loss rate × Average loss - (Trades per month × Commission per RT) > 0
Example:
Your stats:
- Win rate: 60%
- Average win: $75 per trade
- Loss rate: 40%
- Average loss: $50 per trade
- Trades per month: 100
- Commission: $0.50 per RT (MES)
Math:
Expected value per trade = (0.60 × $75) - (0.40 × $50) = $45 - $20 = $25 per trade
Commissions per trade: -$0.50
Net expected value: $25 - $0.50 = $24.50 per trade
Monthly profit: 100 trades × $24.50 = $2,450
After 80/20 split: $2,450 × 0.80 = $1,960 take-home
Commission Impact on Profit Split
Critical understanding: Commissions are deducted BEFORE the profit split
Example:
Gross profit: $5,000
Commissions: -$500
Net profit: $4,500
Your 80%: $3,600
TPT's 20%: $900
Not:
Gross profit: $5,000
Your 80%: $4,000
Commissions: -$500
Your take-home: $3,500
Order matters: Commissions → Profit split → Withdrawal
For details: PRO Profit Split
Do Commissions Vary by Account Size?
No. All PRO accounts pay the same commissions regardless of size.
Some traders expect discounts for larger accounts. TakeProfitTrader doesn't offer that.
Comparing PRO Commissions to Other Prop Firms
Analysis: TakeProfitTrader's PRO commissions are standard for the industry. Not the cheapest (TopOneFutures), not the most expensive (some firms charge $6-7).
Can You Negotiate Lower Commissions?
No. TakeProfitTrader does not offer custom commission rates.
Alternative: Upgrade to PRO+ for 70-75% lower commissions ($1.29-1.50 instead of $5.00)
Caveat: PRO+ has psychological pressure of live trading. Lower commissions don't help if you underperform.
Tax Treatment of PRO Commissions
Are commissions tax deductible?
Yes. Commissions are a business expense.
How to claim:
Schedule C (Self-Employment) → Line 10 (Commissions and Fees)
Example:
Gross trading income: $20,000
Commissions paid: $2,000
Net income: $18,000
You pay taxes on: $18,000 (not the full $20,000)
For complete tax guidance: TakeProfitTrader Taxes
Strategies to Minimize Commission Impact
Strategy 1: Trade Micros
MES commission ($0.50) is 10× cheaper than ES ($5.00)
Strategy 2: Reduce Trade Frequency
100 trades/month × $5 = $500
50 trades/month × $5 = $250
Savings: $250/month
Strategy 3: Increase Win Rate
Higher win rate = fewer losing trades = fewer total trades needed to reach profit goal
Strategy 4: Focus on R-Multiple
Target 2R or 3R trades instead of 1R. Fewer trades needed to reach monthly profit target = lower commissions.
Strategy 5: Scale to Multiple Accounts
5 accounts × $50/month commissions (micros) = $250 total
Better than 1 account × $1,500/month (standard contracts scalping)
Common Commission Misconceptions
Myth 1: "Commissions are charged per contract, not per round trip"
False. TakeProfitTrader charges per round trip (complete trade cycle).
Myth 2: "You can avoid commissions by not withdrawing profits"
False. Commissions are deducted from your PRO balance immediately after each trade, whether you withdraw or not.
Myth 3: "Commission rates decrease as you become more profitable"
False. Rates stay fixed at $5/$0.50 regardless of performance.
Myth 4: "TakeProfitTrader adds hidden fees on top of commissions"
False. The $5/$0.50 rates are all-inclusive. No exchange fees, data fees, or platform fees are added per trade.
Bottom Line
TakeProfitTrader PRO simulation accounts charge fixed commissions of $5.00 per round trip for standard contracts and $0.50 for micros, deducted automatically from your account balance after each completed trade and factored into net profit before the 80/20 split is applied. These rates remain constant regardless of account size, trading volume, or performance, and include all execution costs with no hidden per-trade fees beyond the stated rates. PRO commissions are 3-4× higher than PRO+ live trading ($1.29-1.50 standard, $0.25-0.35 micro) because simulation environments don't generate exchange rebates and TPT uses higher commissions as incentive for profitable traders to upgrade.
Commission impact varies dramatically by trading style—scalpers trading 300 round trips monthly pay $1,500 in commissions on standard contracts (eating 20-30% of gross profits), while swing traders doing 12 round trips monthly pay only $60 (1-2% of gross). Understanding your commission burden is critical for strategy development, with most successful PRO traders either reducing trade frequency, trading micros exclusively, or planning to upgrade to PRO+ once consistently profitable to capture the 70% commission savings available in live trading.
Your Next Steps
👉 Learn About PRO Account Overview
👉 Understand Profit Split Rules

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